In October of 2012 Randy Alcorn was interviewed by Dr. John Akers at The Cove in Asheville, NC. In this clip, John points out that believers get confused, thinking that when they die they will go to the heaven where we will spend eternity with God. However, their is an intermediate state, and intermediate heaven, were we will be with God until He restores all things. John asks Randy to discuss this intermediate state. See Randy's book Heaven for more information.